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Igadevil
12-16-2006, 12:30 PM
Sounds kind of weird...

Kamishiro is aware that he is a Worm. Kagami avoids fighting him, so he takes Kagami hostage and demands all the Zecters in return. Tendo goes to the transaction point make the exchange.

...seriously, where did their love go?

Aoi Kurenai
12-16-2006, 12:40 PM
My guess is that Tsurugi's mad that Kagami kept the fact that he was Scorpioworm a secret from him. They'll fight, long winded speeches will take place and soon enough Kagami and Tsurugi will be taking baths together again.


...that or they kill him.

Thanks for the translation again.

RiderZronos
12-16-2006, 01:22 PM
Wait up...

Tsurugi goes from lovesick puppy to madman kidnapper?

...that's too much of a change in character so soon to me.

Momotaros
12-16-2006, 03:13 PM
well we all thought Kagami and Tsurugi would have a battle eventually with the possibly of Kagami killing him.

HenshinXherO
12-16-2006, 04:17 PM
GAHH!!! TSURUGI MAKE UP YOUR MIND!

Are you gonna be

the cool sword guy

the clown/comic releif

the cool-protect the girl guy

or the madworm kidnapper!?

Aoi Kurenai
12-16-2006, 06:38 PM
Highlight Reel for 45!
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NEXT WEEK: Everyone finds out that Tsurugi is Scorpioworm, including Tsurugi himself. Feeling betrayed by Kagami for not telling him and being humiliated in front of Misaki, Tsurugi takes Kagami hostage. Under Nogi's orders, Kagami will only be returned if all the Zecters are delivered to Tsurugi. With the Gatack Zecter, Nogi undergoes a mysterious change.

Momotaros
12-16-2006, 06:39 PM
poor kagami! question will kagami get his zector back?

p.s. maybe kagami as the bee again intill he gets zector back,maybe?

nickraman
12-16-2006, 06:59 PM
That last Nogi pic makes me want to caption this:

"Where's yer Rider now!"

And yes, perfect opportunity for Ka GAA Mi to henshin, Zabee style. It's like mirroring the first eps of Kabuto.

Momotaros
12-16-2006, 07:11 PM
from pic it looks like kagami gets gatack back. unless nogi are attacking each other.


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HenshinXherO
12-16-2006, 07:43 PM
WOW!....

1.Reiji grew a mustache!

2.Cassisworm....Gatackus?

3.Poor Tsurugi-kun....does this mean hes allied with the worms!?

Doggy Kruger
12-16-2006, 09:16 PM
GAHH!!! TSURUGI MAKE UP YOUR MIND!

Are you gonna be

the cool sword guy

the clown/comic releif

the cool-protect the girl guy

or the madworm kidnapper!?

this is what makes him a cool character in my opinion.
He's all of these.

Kamen Wyrd
12-16-2006, 10:01 PM
Nogi looks like Mitsuki Koga, who played Hayashida from the Live Action Cromartie High Movie O_O

Maybe Freddie will save the day.

http://nipponcinema.com/images/screencap/cromartie_high_the_movie7.jpg

RiderZronos
12-16-2006, 10:28 PM
ok... WOAH! can't wait to see it all


...and in that pic above this post... that's Yamato/Ketaros from GSL, right?

LightningZERO
12-16-2006, 10:47 PM
Looks like wagatomo Kagami won't be able to solve Tsurugi's problem. It's all Tendou show again

wyyc
12-17-2006, 09:06 AM
YES!!! Tsurugi's plotline is finally getting a conclusion, and it looks set to be a big one.

It's so sad. Tsurugi finally won Misaki's love, but it is broken by the discovery of his true identity as Scorpioworm. Damn. Next week's episode will surely play up the emotional factor. We may get an episode that surpasses the Daisuke ones in terms of pure emotion. :thumbs:

We see the Worm invasion getting bad. Real bad. They're pratically appearing everywhere. It finally feels like a real invasion compared to the past, when Worm activity was merely a few random appearances once in a while, and the Riders are finally facing trouble and are being outnumbered.

Who is that guy who met with Riku, Tendou and Mishima? Tendou taking the seat from all of them was awesome!

Tendou going around and asking all the Riders for help was neat. Yagu and Kage are seriously retards. I'm not sure what I heard was correct, but apparently they're wearing chains to restrain themselves because the darkness does not allow one to hear the cries of help, so they're not gonna help fight Worms. We need Igadevil Power NOW!! :laugh:

Next Episode Preview: Misaki asks, "What are humans? What are Worms?" Her experience with Tsurugi and his kindness makes her wonder about Worms and their behaviour. Tsurugi aims to be the "top of all Worms", and attacks the two Nogi, stabbing them both in their Worm forms. Apparently, Scorpioworm is incredibly powerful when he is aware of his identity and thus able to control his power.

WE WANT IGADEVIL'S REVIEW!!!! :buttrock:

Aoi Kurenai
12-17-2006, 09:18 AM
Would be odd if Scorpioworm ends up being the final enemy of the series. Gonna go off to watch 45 now myself, just finished downloading it.

wyyc
12-17-2006, 10:23 AM
Would be odd if Scorpioworm ends up being the final enemy of the series. Gonna go off to watch 45 now myself, just finished downloading it.

Finally, Tsurugi fans (me included :P ) can take pride in the fact that his story will (hopefully) end spectacularly. Now we can finally see his character being developed. I hope he becomes some sort of a tragic hero and sacrifices himself to kill the 2 Nogis permanently while protecting the one he loves (Misaki).

BTW Blue, are you Hyperdash?

Aoi Kurenai
12-17-2006, 10:50 AM
Just got done with the episode, a lot better than last week, which is saying a lot since it didn't have half the action of it.

The thing with the Worms appearing all over the cities reminds me of the final few episodes of Blade when it was more or less just Mutsuki and Kenzaki fighting off hundreds of the Dark Roaches for as long as they could. It was done a bit better in Blade, but that's probably due to it being in the final two episodes.

Tsurugi is once again proving why he's my favorite character, even when he wasn't in use, he was still the most entertaining character on the show, him and Jiiya really. I'm going to miss those two next year. It was nice to see Jiiya finish the present that Tsurugi was doing for Misaki, he really seems like a father to him now.

I hope we eventually see Daisuke again out of suit. Didn't see him in the preview for next week's episode, so I'm kind of fearing they're going to kill him off in suit as a way to avoid having the actor actually appear in the show again. Hopefully he'll be back in 47, along with Gon so they can finish their stories.

The whole thing with the Hoppers wearing those restraints so they wouldn't have to help people was really...really stupid. I was thinking they were going to be some sort of training restraints, this is just downright creepy to be honest.

About the new old guy, my guess is that he was one of the original Natives on earth. Maybe he's the one helped create ZECT and gave the humans information about creating the Masked Rider system? Guess we'll eventually find out, for some reason, I thought he was going to be related to Tendou or something.

Not much else to say about this episode other than how much I love Tsurugi's story coming together so great. It doesn't feel forced like so many other series' character's final story arcs do, felt like the natural progression of the show with the way he was hurt last week.

Nogi's new form was pretty interesting, seems to actually be getting weaker as his forms go. First there was the one with Freeze, arguably the strongest move we've ever seen in Kamen Rider, then Absorb, which while it was strong as heck, it wasn't unbeatable. Now we've got Copy, which will be good for double teaming people, but as long as they manage to break through his shield, they'll beat him.

Next episode looks like another great one. From Misaki's narration, I think she's going to fear Tsurugi at first, that gets Tsurugi mad at Kagami for not telling him the truth, Misaki realizes that the differences between the Worms and Humans are only skin deep and that somehow allows Scorpioworm to control himself. Not sure how he'll fair against the Nogis, while they do seem to be the weakest of his forms, they still are some of the strongest Worms in the series. I really don't want Tsurugi to die, I want his story to end with him being happy, getting the girl and having his best friend, the tragic hero angle is getting a little overdone at this point, we've already had that with Daisuke and Reina.

Only five episode left now, I'm really going to miss Tsurugi.
BTW Blue, are you Hyperdash?That would be me.

Black Sun
12-17-2006, 11:04 AM
yeah another awesome episode!! Tsurugi and Jiiya are amazing! Misaki was very cute and so is Renge.. the Nogi's are awesome as usual although not as strong as the freeze guy back then. I don't want Tsurugi to die too! and I wish Kabuto's ending will be a 1 hour special! but that's just me :P

wyyc
12-17-2006, 11:05 AM
Good point there about Nogi getting weaker as he evolves. My theory about his evolution is that he's adapting to combat situations.

Time Stop - Adapted to combat Riders and their Clock Up (since Clock Up was the biggest threat to Worms; it allowed Riders to move at speeds on par or surpassing them)

Absorb - Adapted to withstand Rider Finishers (after getting screwed by MHC in 42)

Copy - Adapted to fight against multiple Riders (after getting pwned by a triple Rider Kick in 44)

However, his adaptation is, to me, pretty useless. He only evolves when defeated, so prior to that, he cannot adapt to changes in the battle situation. As such, the Riders have the time and opportunity to find his weakness and formulate counter attack strategies, and since he cannot change his abilities to defend against the Riders' strategies, he usually gets defeated. Not quite a badass eh, Reiji? :P

Aoi Kurenai
12-17-2006, 11:12 AM
Maybe he'll eventually evolve into a form that has all those powers? Or just split himself into three different Nogis, each with a different power.

wyyc
12-17-2006, 11:18 AM
Maybe he'll eventually evolve into a form that has all those powers? Or just split himself into three different Nogis, each with a different power.

Damn. If he gets all his 3 powers into one form, he'll be worthy of being a final boss. He could split into a few bodies, absorb all the Rider FInishers, freeze time and send everything back to our heroes. As of now, the 2 Nogis look pretty weak. Getting stabbed by Scorpioworm in the preview? Just a side thought: Maybe Scorpioworm's some uber Worm. Nogi did look surprised and said, "Could it be?" when he saw Tsurugi's near transformation. It could be that he was merely surprised that a Rider was a Worm, or he could have recognised Tsurugi as their MIA leader or something.

Edit: This thread is dead quiet. What happened to the colourful discussion and varied opinions? It's only Blue, me and Black Sun.

Edit 2: Tsurugi has that purple colour around his body when transforming to Worm form, like Reiji Nogi. He didn't have that in the past. Could it be a sign that he indeed is a uber Worm?

taramjwi
12-17-2006, 11:19 AM
Good point there about Nogi getting weaker as he evolves. My theory about his evolution is that he's adapting to combat situations.

Time Stop - Adapted to combat Riders and their Clock Up (since Clock Up was the biggest threat to Worms; it allowed Riders to move at speeds on par or surpassing them)

Absorb - Adapted to withstand Rider Finishers (after getting screwed by MHC in 42)

Copy - Adapted to fight against multiple Riders (after getting pwned by a triple Rider Kick in 44)

However, his adaptation is, to me, pretty useless. He only evolves when defeated, so prior to that, he cannot adapt to changes in the battle situation. As such, the Riders have the time and opportunity to find his weakness and formulate counter attack strategies, and since he cannot change his abilities to defend against the Riders' strategies, he usually gets defeated. Not quite a badass eh, Reiji? :P

Well they had to give him some kind of flaw. I mean, what's the point of an invincible villian? If that happened the bad guys would win the war :rolleyes2:, and we know that's not going to happen.

Aoi Kurenai
12-17-2006, 11:33 AM
Damn. If he gets all his 3 powers into one form, he'll be worthy of being a final boss. He could split into a few bodies, absorb all the Rider FInishers, freeze time and send everything back to our heroes. As of now, the 2 Nogis look pretty weak. Getting stabbed by Scorpioworm in the preview? Just a side thought: Maybe Scorpioworm's some uber Worm. Nogi did look surprised and said, "Could it be?" when he saw Tsurugi's near transformation. It could be that he was merely surprised that a Rider was a Worm, or he could have recognised Tsurugi as their MIA leader or something.

Edit: This thread is dead quiet. What happened to the colourful discussion and varied opinions? It's only Blue, me and Black Sun.

Edit 2: Tsurugi has that purple colour around his body when transforming to Worm form, like Reiji Nogi. He didn't have that in the past. Could it be a sign that he indeed is a uber Worm?Yeah, that was Scorpioworm stabbing the two Nogis in the chest. Cassisworm does look a lot like Scorpioworm, I've always thought that anyway. So it's very possible that he used to be the leader of the Worms or at least had some kind of pull within their ranks. Which is all going to make for great story is they decide to let Tsurugi live a happy life.

I think he's always had that purple glow around him when he became Scorpioworm. I haven't seen those episodes in a while though, but I'm pretty sure it's not something new, it would seem kind of forced to have that appear now that Nogi is here. I'm thinking that Scorpioworm is just one hell of a strong Worm, Nogi knows this, so he's surprised to find out that he's a rider, been living as a human and fallen in love with a human.

SaitheShaman
12-17-2006, 01:41 PM
This weeks episode was entertaining. However, I didn't like how the Dark Kabuto meeting with the two Nogi's ended up though. It felt kind of off and it made Dark Kabuto seem really weak. Understandably the Cassisworms have the strongest enimies so far, but for both of them to beat Dark Kabuto, who is supposed to be really badass himself. It seemed weird. Also, we didnt get to see what the hell happened to Hiyori. I am no longer sure if it was a laser blast, or if the Cast Off hit her or if she simply tripped and knocked herself out.

I really like how Tsurugi's story is in full force again, hopefully in the next episode we get to see most of it start to wrap up and lead to the final battle. The little clip of Scorpioworm stinging the two Cassisworms gives me an odd idea that those stingers might absorb Cassisworm. For some odd reason, in my little world, it seems plausible.

Oh! We got to see the official spelling of Worm in this episode. If you look at the computer screen when all the worms are attacking, we clearly see that they should be called Warms. So everyone, let us now call them Warms lol.