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TaToBa
09-16-2010, 07:51 AM
Kiva had the disadvantage that it came after Den-O. I think Toei decided that nothing they could do after that would top Den-O (well, it's true) so they just stuck together any old show and hoped for the best. The same pretty much happened with Goseiger - Toei decided they couldn't top Shinkenger (which is fast becoming the Den-O of Sentai) so they're just using this year's show to make cash that can be used for the 2011 anniversary
Does Shinkenger really have that kind of popularity? I honestly was not that big a fan. I think what really turned me off was I was hoping for samurai and I get bazookas and stuff. It had it's moments, and I'm not saying I hate it per say, just that it is at the bottom of my Sentai favorites list out of every series I have seen entirely.
Anyway, as far as the new show, I hope that since it will most likely be a full series they will have more time for character development, but it all depends on how they do it. With Decade they had 9 Heisei Rider worlds and a few extras for 30 episodes. Even if we had a full 50 this is 35 Sentai teams unless they skip some.
Digifiend
09-16-2010, 07:58 AM
Unless Goukaiger can be translated to something else or they play around with the formation of the letters. But even so, we're not going to get Pirates the way people are expecting. I'd be impressed if travelling in the sea was involved tbh.Goukai doesn't mean Pirate. Kaizoku does. Kaizoku Sentai Goukaiger. Pirate Taskforce Heroic Ranger.
Digifiend
09-16-2010, 08:23 AM
according to the Japanese Wikipedia, Toei wants Super Sentai to have a team of humans not from Earth starting from Goseiger onwards.
I personally love heroes from another world, but if they can only make them act as if they've never seen anything before when they visit Earth.Where does it say that?
http://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E3%82%B9%E3%83%BC%E3%83%91%E3%83%BC%E6%88%A6%E9%9 A%8A%E3%82%B7%E3%83%AA%E3%83%BC%E3%82%BA
Jacky392000
09-16-2010, 08:39 AM
Where does it say that?
http://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E3%82%B9%E3%83%BC%E3%83%91%E3%83%BC%E6%88%A6%E9%9 A%8A%E3%82%B7%E3%83%AA%E3%83%BC%E3%82%BA
check the Tensou Sentai Goseiger wikipedia. it states there that it will be the first series to have heroes not from Earth.
Goukai doesn't mean Pirate. Kaizoku does. Kaizoku Sentai Goukaiger. Pirate Taskforce Heroic Ranger.
Yes, I made a mistake, what do you want? A cookie?
Digifiend
09-16-2010, 08:50 AM
check the Tensou Sentai Goseiger wikipedia. it states there that it will be the first series to have heroes not from Earth.It has a footnote pointing out other non-human Rangers (TimeGreen, AbareBlack, DekaMaster). But no reference. Seems to just be referring to the Gosei World thing, which of course is also mentioned on English Wikipedia.
Now I know why arkarkarkark was using Monet instead of Moune on his subs. Google didn't translate the name correctly.
http://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E5%A4%A9%E8%A3%85%E6%88%A6%E9%9A%8A%E3%82%B4%E3%8 2%BB%E3%82%A4%E3%82%B8%E3%83%A3%E3%83%BC
GekiDan
09-16-2010, 09:00 AM
Google translate is really not that reliable...
Besides, the cast scans basically shows the correct romanizations of the names:
http://img192.imageshack.us/img192/3183/goseicast.th.jpg (http://img192.imageshack.us/i/goseicast.jpg/)
Jacky392000
09-16-2010, 09:15 AM
it's written as Arata, Eri, Aguri, Mone and Haido in Katakana. I don't even understand why they gave such exaggerating romanizations.
Wing Saber
09-16-2010, 02:30 PM
Does Shinkenger really have that kind of popularity? I honestly was not that big a fan. I think what really turned me off was I was hoping for samurai and I get bazookas and stuff. It had it's moments, and I'm not saying I hate it per say, just that it is at the bottom of my Sentai favorites list out of every series I have seen entirely.
Anyway, as far as the new show, I hope that since it will most likely be a full series they will have more time for character development, but it all depends on how they do it. With Decade they had 9 Heisei Rider worlds and a few extras for 30 episodes. Even if we had a full 50 this is 35 Sentai teams unless they skip some.
Shinkengers has that popularity with the Japanese fans mostly because of the samurai theme, which is part of their culture. As for the whole bazooka thing, Europeans introduced guns to the samurai in the Edo Period.
As for Gokaigers, the guest appereances can work as long as they branch them out within the 50 episode period.
Lynxara
09-16-2010, 02:46 PM
Shinkengers has that popularity with the Japanese fans mostly because of the samurai theme, which is part of their culture.
It's a little more complicated than that. The Shinkenger short film that ran with one of the Decade movies was the first 3D Japanese-made film. A lot of people went to see that film who don't usually bother with Super Sentai at all, since Japanese people tend to regard it all as basically the same once they hit a certain age.*
Since more people than usual saw the movie, it meant more people than usual got exposed to the property. A lot of those people hadn't watched any Super Sentai recently. Just as Kamen Rider Ryuki's film ignited the series's popularity, the Shinkenger movie got a lot of people interested in the series who don't usually pay any attention to Super Sentai.
This fueled an unusual popularity with older fans and other secondary audience types for Shinkenger. I'm not sure I'd compare it to Jetman's popularity with mainstream viewers in its heyday, but it was enough to get the direct-to-DVD special made. Granted, Toei may just be deciding to exploit individual Super Sentai properties more aggressively these days.
*Gundam is viewed similarly and this attitude toward Kamen Rider seems to be developing, too. It should be noted that this view is held primarily by mainstream Japanese who aren't fannish people. Being able to tell the difference between various series is often considered geeky in itself, though it's fairly normal to have a favorite season.
RiderKing
09-16-2010, 03:48 PM
I'm curious about the early rumor saying the Goukaiger's henshin devices being a belt and using figures of the previous Rangers. Unless the figures are miniature figurines, the belt buckles going to have to be really big in order to fit an action figure in them. I mean, I know Goukaiger is trying to individualize itself from Decade by using something other then cards, but really, action figures?
I also wonder about this thing about their being a Battle Chapter and a Warrior Chapter of Goukaiger vs Super Sentai? What could that possibly mean? Is it two alternate versions of the anniversary team-up or some kind of 2-part special?
Beast King
09-16-2010, 04:12 PM
I think it would be better if they used Keys that way it would be like how pirates unlock treasure chests, speaking of transforming does anybody else think the Go-Kaiger's robot will have the ability to transform into previous robots and use their attacks? cause that would be awesome.
RiderKing
09-16-2010, 04:43 PM
I think it would be better if they used Keys that way it would be like how pirates unlock treasure chests, speaking of transforming does anybody else think the Go-Kaiger's robot will have the ability to transform into previous robots and use their attacks? cause that would be awesome.
Whoa. Rangers transforming into past Rangers is one thing, but having mechas transform into past mechas would kind of be pushing it. Maybe the main mecha will be able to access past mecha's weapons, like Shinken-Oh's DaiShinken or Dekaranger Robo's Signal Cannon.
As for using keys instead of figures, I could probably see it. The top of the keys could have like either a picture of the Ranger they transform into or a picture of the past Sentai teams insignia.
Gold Samurai
09-16-2010, 04:54 PM
Toy wise I could see BOJ releasing one auxilary mecha/item from the last 10 years for the last 10 series
Gao- Giraffe
Hurricanger- bee karakuri ball
etc etc
This fueled an unusual popularity with older fans and other secondary audience types for Shinkenger. I'm not sure I'd compare it to Jetman's popularity with mainstream viewers in its heyday, but it was enough to get the direct-to-DVD special made.
So you're saying the movie is "the" responsible for fuel the series' popularity? I don't know...as far as i know, Shinkenger dvds sold far more than the average for sentai from the get-go..
I think the cast + character-driven storytelling was the thing that attracted this unusual older audience. Surely, the modern take on samurai-theme might have helped too.
DarkBlaze
09-16-2010, 07:40 PM
Whoa. Rangers transforming into past Rangers is one thing, but having mechas transform into past mechas would kind of be pushing it. Maybe the main mecha will be able to access past mecha's weapons, like Shinken-Oh's DaiShinken or Dekaranger Robo's Signal Cannon.
As for using keys instead of figures, I could probably see it. The top of the keys could have like either a picture of the Ranger they transform into or a picture of the past Sentai teams insignia.I agree, that would be pushing it, even for Sentai. The idea sounds nice, but I see them doing what you said and have the mecha access past mecha weapons.
I like the idea of them being able to transform into past rangers, but not liking the whole figures method. The key idea sounds much better!
Hidden Masta
09-16-2010, 07:48 PM
They should have each individual mech turn into past mechs of the same color to create weird ragdoll combos. XD
GoukaiRed
09-16-2010, 08:05 PM
They should have each individual mech turn into past mechs of the same color to create weird ragdoll combos. XD
What a great idea!:thumbs:
Hidden Masta
09-16-2010, 08:09 PM
What a great idea!:thumbs:
That was the best first post a person could make. Agreeing with me.
garfield15
09-16-2010, 09:40 PM
Don't encourage him.
Lynxara
09-16-2010, 10:03 PM
So you're saying the movie is "the" responsible for fuel the series' popularity?
The movie's exposure is supposed to be one of the big drivers, yeah. The film opened only a month after the first volume of the DVDs shipped and, IIRC, would've been heavily into its hype cycle at the time.
It probably sounds pretty weird, but I've heard of this kind of thing happening with Japanese audiences before. Mobile Suit Gundam was only a cult show in the 80s before Sunrise issued the compilation movies and it's long been argued that nobody cared about KR Ryuki until the movie opened.
Digifiend
09-16-2010, 10:19 PM
Whoa. Rangers transforming into past Rangers is one thing, but having mechas transform into past mechas would kind of be pushing it. Sounds like how the Power Rangers summoned the Thunderzords... we saw the Zyuranger mecha transform into their Dairanger counterparts.
Sounds like how the Power Rangers summoned the Thunderzords... we saw the Zyuranger mecha transform into their Dairanger counterparts.
Wow, thanks for telling us that...i'm sure no one here could remember that
Forever Knight
09-17-2010, 04:15 AM
I wonder if Kazuo Niibori will come out of retirement to do suit work for this anniversary series.
TaToBa
09-17-2010, 11:34 AM
There is one thing I don't get. If it is true they are pirates that travel the seas of time, then what sense does it make to go to one of the early Sentai worlds and see past actors much older. It would be easier to get away with for recent shows at least, but early ones would be impossible. Saying it takes place later on after the series doesn't make sense either because then why do they need to travel time if they are older like they should be if it was just world travel. I don't know if it's just some lame idea thought of to make it seem different than Decade or if there is going to be more to it than that.
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