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KR Hyper Kabuto
10-28-2009, 08:57 PM
It really has been feeling slow...I will most definately not join the next RP(if there ever is one but I highly doubt that). >_<

Matrix
10-28-2009, 09:00 PM
I GURANTEE YOU ALL this is the last HJU RP, none after this. I promise you that.

Also, here is the other thing that I think is hurting us. Kain.

Not in a bad way, but Kain makes all the RPs around here preety much. And when I opened the first RP, Kain wasn't posting as much. Then he went away for awhile. Thats when the loads of people joined.

But Kain is back, and his RPs are getting a lot of attentiion. SO I think thats hurting us as well.

Dark Kabuto
10-28-2009, 09:01 PM
Personally, I don't think there is anything left we can do. I am considering leaving the RP.....

Hey, least I'm trying to think of ways on improving here.

Kai Yamato
10-28-2009, 09:02 PM
I dunno, man. We're pretty much dragging its corpse to corpseville.

Matrix
10-28-2009, 09:06 PM
Hey, least I'm trying to think of ways on improving here.

Hey not mad at you for that. Just saying, I don't think there is anything we can do.

Seriously, we lost a lot of members early.

We didn't get a lot of new members.

Story's have been slow, started off with the worst world (blade)

And just went downhill from there.

And plus, RK's rarely on. He is busy with his personal life so its understandable. But with the downtime coming, this could get worse before it gets better.

Dark Kabuto
10-28-2009, 09:09 PM
*Sigh* guess we'll have to see what happens after down time.

Matrix
10-28-2009, 09:11 PM
I think some of us are ready to leave now.........after the downtime, who knows.

I would have left earlier, but I remember RK sayingn something along the lines of using Vex Den O. And I won't let that happen. I let him use Den O. No one touches Vex Den O!!!!!!



dats my baby :)

RagnorokKing
10-29-2009, 07:02 AM
The main reason I haven't RP'd is ODST.
God dammit, firefight is too fun.

As much as I hate to say it, this RP is close to dead. It's got like 20 HP left.
Now I've tried casting Protect, DK threw some Hast in, Diend Decade hit up with a Shell, and even Tigerhawk put on some buffs a while back.
Kaji casted something but it was useless.

But the main reason I think it's dying is, only a few of us had ideas of what we wanted to do with characters.
Let;s see, I think me, DK, Kjai and Shanti were the only ones who really hadn't finished things with our characters, and we had more things we wanted to do in the first RP, but couldn't.

I had hoped it was the same for everyone, but I guess most of the original RP'ers couldn't really think of anything (Matrix for example, I could tell that it was something you just thought of, not really something you had planned)

But before we all start waving the white flag, let's not forget that this happened in the first RP as well.

I can't remember when, but I think at some point a lot of people were ready to give up, but we managed.
So I wont cast Flee just yet.
But I do understand that unless someone has a Hi-Potion ready, were screwed.
...
Maybe I'll make an RP just for like DK, Tiger and a few others who want to continue their characters, but not involving the Decade storyline.
But then again, truthfully, these forums aren't a big RPing place.
So when people drop out I don't mind.
But we did get pretty far, 1336 posts.
Damn that's good.
I know Matrix said that Kain is a really good RP er, and that is true, but none of his got anywhere close to mine or Matrix's.
That's got to say something.

RagnorokKing
10-29-2009, 07:06 AM
Sorry to double post, but I just realized why the RP seems so slow.
In the roiginally RP, we were about halfway doen at this point (it was around 3000 posts)
yet in this one, were only a like a quater, so maybe thats why everyones felling so slow.

And holidays are appraoching.

Kai Yamato
10-29-2009, 07:35 AM
That and everyone's busy but really, I think that the plot needs more of a work. >> Plus we're pretty much left with almost nothing to do in it.

Duel.
10-29-2009, 07:58 AM
I think we need to trim the roster down a touch... we have lots of characters and lots of side stories and crap... The RPG Buddy System should have been taken more likely earlier on. I also think that our characters should also work on the same stage, rather than walking off on their own and keeping on the side lines. The problem with the world tours is that they center around certain characters exclusive to the main plot... and the others to twiddle their thumbs.

Thus what I stated earlier... we should just lay out the floor plan, list what's going on... beginning to end. Being given stage directions one at a time at our speed is like 120 episodes of screaming in Dragonball Z, before they throw a punch.

Keeping necessary worlds? Just how IMPORTANT are the other worlds in the story? With the current state of the RP, I think the "economy cutbacks" can be sacrificed. Do some of these worlds need revisiting? Just think about the progression in Blade's world... it was worst than the first run.

Beyonce also had one of the BEST music videos of all time!

I'm just saying...

RagnorokKing
10-29-2009, 08:29 AM
Okay, here are the worlds we were going to visit, in order.
Now let's do little cut back.
Now, Nocturne and Kiva have to stay, there for DK and me.
Hiro's should too.
Shanti's should too, and the last too, since they are for thf final battle.

Now, begin deliberation!

Nocturne's world
Amazon's world
Hiro's world
Cutie Honey's world
Den-O's worl
Kabuto's world
Garo's World
Agito's World
Kiva's world
Kaito's world
Black RX's world (together with Black)
Black's world (together with Black RX)
W's world
Destroyed world (All rider vs dai shocker)
Shanti's world
Dragon Knight's world
R.P.M.'s world
Ben 10's world
RK's world
Chaos's world
Final world

Dark Kabuto
10-29-2009, 10:48 AM
Here are the worlds I think we should keep aside from Nocturne and Kiva:


All Rider VS Dai Shocker
Amazon's World
Black/Black RX's world
Kabuto's World
Chao's World
Dragon Knight's world
Den-O's world(only because it was rushed last time around)

Along with any other worlds that we already have characters for

As for worlds I think we can skip:
Cutie Honey's World
Kaito's world
Ben 10's world(seeing as how B ain't postin any more)

I'm also thinking RPM's world could go too, depending if people really wanna visit that world.

RagnorokKing
10-29-2009, 10:59 AM
About Amazon and Black/RX's world.

I'm thinking of having us split, so that some end up n Amazon and some end up in Black/RX's world.

What do you think?

Dark Kabuto
10-29-2009, 11:04 AM
About Amazon and Black/RX's world.

I'm thinking of having us split, so that some end up n Amazon and some end up in Black/RX's world.

What do you think?

Ahhhhh, so go the path split route ala SRW?

...god I hate path split missions in those games, only because your stick using units you might not want too...

Well we have two means of traveling the dimmensions now: The D-Liner and Castle Doran. It'll definitly work out better if some of us split up into groups and head off into different worlds...

So I think after this world, we should see the next two worlds we're gonna visit, and put who's going where.

RagnorokKing
10-29-2009, 12:31 PM
i was thinking more of accidentily ending up split.

and thats why i level up all my party members.

Dark Kabuto
10-29-2009, 12:49 PM
i was thinking more of accidentily ending up split.

and thats why i level up all my party members.

I suppose we could have Dai Shocker do that.

Kai Yamato
10-29-2009, 02:54 PM
I think we need to trim the roster down a touch... we have lots of characters and lots of side stories and crap... The RPG Buddy System should have been taken more likely earlier on. I also think that our characters should also work on the same stage, rather than walking off on their own and keeping on the side lines. The problem with the world tours is that they center around certain characters exclusive to the main plot... and the others to twiddle their thumbs.

Thus what I stated earlier... we should just lay out the floor plan, list what's going on... beginning to end. Being given stage directions one at a time at our speed is like 120 episodes of screaming in Dragonball Z, before they throw a punch.

Keeping necessary worlds? Just how IMPORTANT are the other worlds in the story? With the current state of the RP, I think the "economy cutbacks" can be sacrificed. Do some of these worlds need revisiting? Just think about the progression in Blade's world... it was worst than the first run.

THANK YOU.

Hopefully someone paid attention to the first paragraph. =/

And Ben 10 World... I don't think Samurai is coming back yet.

And personally I think the splitting part should come in Black and RX World.

Artic_Rival
10-29-2009, 03:24 PM
I say we should keep the worlds instead of dropping them.

My suggestion would be to go through the worlds quicky, like give each world 2-4 weeks, that way there won't be any arc fatigue and we would avoid making worlds like Blade's the Namek of Kamen Rider worlds.

I agree with Kai on the Black/RX world party split.

Ryuutaros
10-29-2009, 03:42 PM
Nocturne's world (Speed - Depends on the person involved)
Amazon's world
Hiro's world (Is this for character development?)
Cutie Honey's world
Den-O's worl
Kabuto's world
Garo's World
Agito's World
Kiva's world
Kaito's world (Quick and fast for main RP plot development)
Black/RX's world (together with Black) (Fanservice :P can't think of anything else)
Destroyed world (All rider vs dai shocker) (Why? This could be used for more character development and used as a main plot development, should be fast though)
Shanti's world (Eh.....)
Dragon Knight's world
R.P.M.'s world
Ben 10's world
RK's world (RK development and main plot development)
Chaos's world (Should be near the end of the main plot by now)
Final world (Quick, simple yet fun)


Bold means worlds that shoulde be cut and forgotten because they feel useless and not needed. Just stick with those major ones left so plot progression actually works and some suggestions.

Kai Yamato
10-29-2009, 03:55 PM
Kaitou's World doesn't seem that important to me. I don't see why it should remain.

Dark Kabuto
10-29-2009, 04:51 PM
Kiva's world is definitly something I wanna keep, because there's stuff involving Will I wanna resolve. :redface2: I plan on making the world quick though.

Kai Yamato
10-29-2009, 05:05 PM
Dragon Knight's World in the last RP... wasn't so stellar.

There's no point in exploring Kaitou's world. The worst world ever. :redface2:

Dark Kabuto
10-29-2009, 05:14 PM
Yeah, I'll take the blame for Dragon Knight's world, that'll be my fault, only because:

1: It was kinda thrown in at the last minute so...

2: I didn't have proper time to plan out everything, like I did for Agito's world. That, and at the time we were at the half way point of Dragon Knight, so it was hard coming up with ways to involve EVERY single character...


Playing all 13 riders, plus Xaviax, plus Maya, plus my own characters...ugh I DON'T wanna go through that EVER again. :redface2:

Kaiketsu Zubat
10-29-2009, 05:38 PM
Haven't posted awhile in this, haven't seen the point or been interested, but since we're all trying to attempt to salvage it all, I figured I might as well add my two-cents.

Nocturne's World - Don't care, too many vamps in these things...I swear it's a fetish.

Amazon's World - I know this ISN'T going to be the real Amazon's world but the insomnia curing Decade version, so dump it.

Hiro's World - Interested in what Duel can come up with.

Cutey Honey's World - Now this could have legs if someone just came up with something INTERESTING and MEANINGFUL with it. Like Panther Claw abducting young, impressionable women all over the city to brainwash into new recruits, with Mayumi and Yuki of Panther Claw teaming with Princess Yokai and Staff Officer Witch of Daishocker(Jin Dogma). Abit of comedy with the Jin Dogma Kaijin but in the end to make it rather MEANINGFUL, it's almost like your Dekaranger Girl Power episodes...or some such, just a quick idea.

Den-o's World - Drop it, all this will become is "how many Imagin can possess me" combined with just failing miserably to catch the actual humor and chemistry of the show.

Kabuto's World - Part of me would drop it, but then again, another part would say to me, with this short visit, you can do more with Kabuto and make it far better than Yonemura ever could...so a maybe.

Garo's World - We the three Makai Knights as characters, so we might as well keep this world, besides, I've got some neat ideas that will actually give everyone's characters some you know...DEPTH.

Agito's World - Hmm...could do a neat empowering humanity angle...or just a BIG TWIST(Yeah, an actual twist, not just changing one or two things like most people do and try to pass off as something different.) with the Unknown and Agitos.

Kiva's World - Personally, I'd dump it, the whole Kiva thing is just getting stale and boring, but maybe DK will surprise us all with something interesting.

Kaito's World - Can it, who cares, was boring to watch, will be boring to play, all it is in the Nega World all over again.

BLACK and BLACK RX - The split would work for this, one crew helping BLACK take on Gorgom(BLACK's Gorgom, not Decade's crap Gorgom) and one crew assisting BLACK RX against The Crisis Empire (Once again, BLACK RX's Crisis, not the tremendously watered down Crisis from Decade.) Also here is a novel concept, Gorgom(Twisted Defenders of the Earth) Vs Crisis(Evil Invader's from beyond, with BLACK/BLACK RX inbetween along with us.

W's World - Can it, dull.

Destroyed World - Don't need it, since Final World would technically count.

Shanti's World - I'll hold my breath on this one, maybe Tiger will come up with something interesting.

Dragon Knight's World - Drop it, not needed.

RPM's World - Drop it, not needed.

Ben 10's World - Neat idea, just not really needed.

RK's World - Not trying to be rude buddy, but I'm guessing this will just be another Pit Stop to stroke your ego...AGAIN.

Chaos's World - Personally I find Chaos to be dull and unneeded, he doesn't add to the plot, only derails it half the time.

Final World - Now...can we make this world MEAN something.


Now all of this is just off the top of my head...a few moments of thought, but consider a few things.

1.) You have a TON of officers from older Kamen Rider Shows to use to tie Daishocker into the Worlds and actually make Daishocker a legitimate threat.

2.) Considering alot of the different toku series involved, you have a good deal of crossover potential, example, imagine Okami-Otoko(Colonel Zol) against Garo.

3.) Enough of this limelighting. Seems like nearly everyone has this desire to make their character the center of attention, or when they run a world, push their character to the front, even over the inhabitants of that world and have subplots overtake the main plot just to keep their characters in the top spot. This also includes people who just want to jump around and be involved in everything at once.

4.) Be a good director. The director/mod whatthehell you want to call it should have something neat in mind for everyone and should guide the story and plot along with guiding the players. This means have something in mind for a particular character, tell them what it is and what needs to be done. The role-play /acting is HOW THAT CHARACTER RESPONDS TO IT and HOW THEY ACCOMPLISH IT, everyone might accomplish it the same way, or they might go about doing it in some strange and unusual way, which might just make it more interesting. What this DOESN'T mean is just having everyone else clean up flunkies and do a bunch of grunt work while you keep your character at the front making all the decisions and doing all the important stuffs.

5.) Regardless of what you do, make these stories MEAN SOMETHING! Make it to where everyone's character has the ability to get something out it...either a lesson or a reaffirmation/revaluation of their beliefs...as bad as Blade's World was, the idea of it being a ruin should have just pissed off some characters and given them even more determination to stop whateverthehell is going on just so their worlds don't suffer a similar fate.

Simple really...